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[quote name='jackbox;77455]Wasn't in the photos you posted. Anyway' date=' I tried the updater and it could not find firmware for it. Oh well, we'll have to keep guessing what is running for the time being.[/QUOTE']The model # was in one of the photos, but not the serial #.
 

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Still no mention on the PDN website though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

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I receive the new Kohl's ad booklet and the 6" PDN is on sale for $149.00AR. There is another 30% off code (SAVING30) plus Kohl's cash. Valid Oct 20-26.
Sweet - that gets it down to ~$110 with tax (and technically lower with the Kohls cash). That definitely makes me consider it. My only concern is ePaper - it's good, but I still might prefer eInk. Would have to mull over it.I'm thinking about a device for the kids / spouse - she's fighting me on it, however. She's old school "I like real books" type of person.
 

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Same here the wife won't read none of 2 PDN's! She wants the old hard cover book or paperback. I even tried to get her interested in this one here. No dice.
 

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I wonder how videos would look on this in the sunlight at the beach. Still prices should drop down as more stores carries this item.
 

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I wonder how videos would look on this in the sunlight at the beach. Still prices should drop down as more stores carries this item.]
Personally, I'm a color lovin' guy. I wouldn't even consider buying an ePaper or eInk device. I've seen videos of the Kindle and other eInk devices in action and the flash that is required to clear the screen before rewriting it would annoy the heck out of me. I don't know if ePaper has the same flash, but eInk technology definitely does. If it has the same screen erase requirement as eInk, I don't see how it could play a video without a flash between every frame. Plus the refresh rate between screen erase and rewrite is way too slow on this type of technology. The trade-off is that power is only used to clear and rewrite the screen. No power is required to maintain the image so the battery lasts a lot longer.
 

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[quote name='jackbox;77947]Personally' date=' I'm a color lovin' guy. I wouldn't even consider buying an ePaper or eInk device. I've seen videos of the Kindle and other eInk devices in action and the flash that is required to clear the screen before rewriting it would annoy the heck out of me. I don't know if ePaper has the same flash, but eInk technology definitely does. If it has the same screen erase requirement as eInk, I don't see how it could play a video without a flash between every frame. Plus the refresh rate between screen erase and rewrite is way too slow on this type of technology. The trade-off is that power is only used to clear and rewrite the screen. No power is required to maintain the image so the battery lasts a lot longer.[/QUOTE'] Supposedly, the newer eInk used in the Kindle 3 is much quicker now in transitioning from page to page - have to try it a bit to find out how it really strikes you. I have the previous gen eInk Sony PRS-600 Touch ($85 on clearance from Target), and do not find that an issue. In fact, it might help a bit in keeping me from staring too long at a time at the reader, and make me blink a bit more frequently as should be done. I do not really notice any great delay in going from 1 page to the next. "YMMV"One thing I am finding with the Sony is that large, complex PDF's (as with magazines like Linux Journal) really overwhelm it in rendering delays, and having to mess with zoom "interruptions" to get closer looks at tables, diagrams, images, etc. I am thinking I will need to stay with a color PC or tablet screen for docs like those, and use eInk just for "words", which it does quite nicely. The lighter eInk device is also easier to hold for longer reading times, although the Sony is a bit slick, large, and thin (for my hand with a carpal tunnel issue), and I have to keep moving it around, or set it on one of those $3 plate easels that I have found handy for the PDN, also.
 

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[quote name='jackbox;77947]Personally' date=' I'm a color lovin' guy. I wouldn't even consider buying an ePaper or eInk device. I've seen videos of the Kindle and other eInk devices in action and the flash that is required to clear the screen before rewriting it would annoy the heck out of me. I don't know if ePaper has the same flash, but eInk technology definitely does. If it has the same screen erase requirement as eInk, I don't see how it could play a video without a flash between every frame. Plus the refresh rate between screen erase and rewrite is way too slow on this type of technology. The trade-off is that power is only used to clear and rewrite the screen. No power is required to maintain the image so the battery lasts a lot longer.[/QUOTE'] Going on the Libre (which is also called ePaper, so I assume they are similar), it does not have the flash that you see with eInk. However, the battery life is not as good -- eInk only consumes battery during page turns, wheras ePaper uses battery constantly. That's because ePaper is just a non-backlit greyscale LCD like an old Palm Pilot. And with that in mind, imagine what web browsing / videos would look like on a Palm Pilot - it can't be good.eInk / ePaper definitely has its uses, imo. Basically, it's a replacement for books. Great battery life, ability to read in direct sunlight, small form factor, lightweight etc. For someone who just wants to read books for hours at a time, it's the better solution imo.
 

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[quote name='jackbox;77947]Personally' date=' I'm a color lovin' guy. I wouldn't even consider buying an ePaper or eInk device. I've seen videos of the Kindle and other eInk devices in action and the flash that is required to clear the screen before rewriting it would annoy the heck out of me. I don't know if ePaper has the same flash, but eInk technology definitely does. If it has the same screen erase requirement as eInk, I don't see how it could play a video without a flash between every frame. Plus the refresh rate between screen erase and rewrite is way too slow on this type of technology. The trade-off is that power is only used to clear and rewrite the screen. No power is required to maintain the image so the battery lasts a lot longer.[/QUOTE'] I've own prior touchpad devices with the LCD, back-light glow stuff in the past. But now that color is available who's using Chromatic screens. But the Color TFT LCD in the direct sunlight makes viewing awful. Amazon Kindle vs iPad in Sunlight YouTube - Amazon Kindle vs iPad in Sunlight
 

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I have a couple of olpcs with the pixel qi screen. in black and white mode they are really high res and are pretty nice to read in direct sunlight but this mode almost never gets used. color is just too important.imo, this bastardization should be priced at $75 tops. if you want a black and white ereader, the nook and kindle are far better choices for the same $$$.
 

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Plus there are only 16 levels of gray. That is not enough for even a photo to look good. Even if you hacked it this thing wouldn't be of much more use than reading books and browsing non-graphic intensive websites.
 

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Anyone interested, while checking on my rebate for my WPDN I bought at Kohl's, apparently starting the 10/20 there is going to be $15 rebate on this unit.Funny thing is that it still doesn't show up on there website as a product.Also there is another $15 rebate on the WPDN there too that is in the rebate page but doesn't show up on the actual Kohl's product page.
 

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The website does mention the new line of epaper readers. Look at where they posted a notice about problems with the website. They mention the release of their first ePaper reader for reading in sunlight.
Pandigital Novel eReader Line Expands with Company's First ePaper Model; Features Full Touch-Screen Display New 6-inch ePaper model gives more choices to customers - especially those who want to read outside and on vacation; Easy to use and enjoy with full touch-screen display.
Plus there is a PDF article for viewing here
 

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jackbox;78128 said:
Plus there are only 16 levels of gray. That is not enough for even a photo to look good. Even if you hacked it this thing wouldn't be of much more use than reading books and browsing non-graphic intensive websites.
No it's should be 256 levels of gray. Shoot 16 levels of gray is like going back to CGA or EGA days..
 
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