[mogrith]

I have an online chat support session open with Augen right now and the supports staff is in the dark as the rest of us.Q CPU 800 or 600 A Don't know.Q How does it support 720P w/o HDMI port? A Recode Video to lower format?They have been told they will get data at the end of the week. Don't want this guy's job.

 

[thcrw739]

I guess i dont understand enough about high def, but what would a hdmi port have to do with on board viewing

 

[cutterjohn]

[quote name='thcrw739;24398]I guess i dont understand enough about high def' date=' but what would a hdmi port have to do with on board viewing[/QUOTE']It's a connector commonly used with digital TVs and other displays, e.g. LCD monitors, but many times higher resolution video will only be supported when played back on an external display supporting the resolution. (Many times because the devices display, if it has one, cannot support that resolution, e.g. 720p = 1280x720 while the Gentouch only has an onboard display with a res of 800x480...)

 

[thcrw739]

Gotcha,Never put those 2 together since i have 2 tv's that support 720p, but yet they are wide, and my moniter is a 1280x1024 flat panel sqaure.

 

[cutterjohn]

[quote name='thcrw739;24409]Gotcha' date='Never put those 2 together since i have 2 tv's that support 720p, but yet they are wide, and my moniter is a 1280x1024 flat panel sqaure.[/QUOTE']heh I'm the opposite... have 2 4:3 perfectly working TVs, but a 1680x1050 notebook... took a while to get used to and whenever I use a 4:3 display with a computer it always feels ... odd ...So here, w/no HDMI output it can't TRULY support 720p playback as the onboard LCD simply doesn't have the resolution. It MAY be able to play 720p perfectly hw wise but...All of this said, my bigger problem with with the mislabelling of CPU spec...

 

[thcrw739]

The cpu issue doesnt bother me, SQ v7 has raves, this sounds close, I'm sure there is a dsp that hasnt been mentioned either.

 

[cutterjohn]

[quote name='thcrw739;24438]The cpu issue doesnt bother me' date=' SQ v7 has raves, this sounds close, I'm sure there is a dsp that hasnt been mentioned either.[/QUOTE']There should as IIRC is part of the Telechips SoC... I never bothered to investigate yet as I'd expected more information to pop up with particulars to this device, although if it's just a Telechips ref board I'd expect the specs to be about the same.

 

[clockworx]

[quote name='thcrw739;24438]The cpu issue doesnt bother me' date=' SQ v7 has raves, this sounds close, I'm sure there is a dsp that hasnt been mentioned either.[/QUOTE'] They still shouldn't lie about the CPU speed. That would be like buying a laptop where they advertised the CPU speed as CPU speed + GPU speed. It's just not the truth.

 

[iplaythisgame]

Someone should run Linpack on this to see how it compares to the others out there. These are avarage estimates in Mflops1.3 - Eken M001 (which is 300Mhz-ish)2.1 - Pandigital Novel (533Mhz)2.2 - Apad / Archos 7HT (600Mhz + DSP)That should give us a good estimate of what the processor is really runing AND how well it will perform compared to other tablets some of us have used.

 

[cutterjohn]

Found a datasheet for the TCC8900 part, presumably it mostly all applies to the 8902 as well... relevant points of interest:Video CodecDecoder:MPEG 1/2 to 40MbpsMPEG4-ASP(DivX 3.x) to 35MbpsMPEG4-AVC(h.264) to 25MbpsVC-1 to 30MbpsRV (real video 10) to 30MbpsJPEG to 12 MpixelsEncoderH.263 up to 30fps @ 720pMPEG4-ASP up to 30fps @ 720pH.264 up to 24fps @720pJPEG up to 12MpixelsGraphic Engine:2D/3Dup to 7M polygon (/s presumably)openGL v1.1 supportopenGL ES v2.0, v1.x support4x/16x FSAA, etc. misc. pre-programmable shader GPU goodieswell I'd upload the full thing, but 999k exceeds my generous 19.5k upload allocation... :/Didn't see a damned thing about the TCC89xx series on Telechips own English site... which is .. er.. pretty basic...here's the link to the forum (read to find link to datasheets)http://www.smartqmid.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=626&start=0

 

[clockworx]

My hunch is that this might do better with just a quick port of the SmartQ's Android more than anything else available at the moment.

 

[cutterjohn]

Not linkpack, but quadrant:http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1018334/m15051550/#m15051550http://androidforums.com/tablets-mids/133445-augen-7-2-1-a.html#post1245561PDN @ 800MHz 186Augen @ stock 272

 

[clockworx]

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1018334/m15051550/#m15051550[/url]http://androidforums.com/tablets-mids/133445-augen-7-2-1-a.html#post1245561PDN @ 800MHz 186Augen @ stock 272

What does quadrent test? They're both in the same class of the ARM11 family, so I find it kind of hard to believe that the Augen blows away the PDN at 3/4 the same clock speed.

 

[droptopjim]

Someone should run Linpack on this to see how it compares to the others out there. These are avarage estimates in Mflops1.3 - Eken M001 (which is 300Mhz-ish)2.1 - Pandigital Novel (533Mhz)2.2 - Apad / Archos 7HT (600Mhz + DSP)That should give us a good estimate of what the processor is really runing AND how well it will perform compared to other tablets some of us have used.

3.337 Mflops/s1.62 Seconds

 

[cutterjohn]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2078282

Tests Tests CPU, Memory, I/O, 2D performance, 3D performance. The free version compiles them all into a single overall score. The paid version launches next month and will allow stand alone tests of each sub category. It also gives a visual indication of the performance of numerous devices compared to yours right in the benchmark. This app should prove extremely useful in the future for finding out what our phones are good and poor at.Some interesting info: It looks like the Motorola Shadow is on here. It's score far surpasses the 2.1 Nexus One. If the Shadow benchmarked here is running Android 2.1, then with the 2.2 update it will be by far the fastest Android device with nothing else coming even remotely close to it. Galaxy S looks extremely impressive as well. I'm very curious to know if the tests were run with these devices on 2.1 or 2.2. It's possible that these devices just have a ridiculously powerful GPU that helps inflate their scores as well.Post your scores from the free version to start. Be sure to include any relevant info such as the OS version, rooted or not, overclock or not, etc..

So it's a more complete benchmark, testing more than merely the CPUs ability to handle linpack.Nexus OneAndroid 2.2Score: 1580 Droid, 2.1 Cyanogen 5.0.7.11Ghz612 - 650Samsung Moment, 2.1230Verizon's Motorola Droid (rooted)Bugless Beast v 1.1 (Eclair-based OS)Overclocked to 1200MHz632

 

[clockworx]

Ah, in that case it probably is the GPU.

 

[roebeet]

Also keep in mind that that the PDN is 2.0 and the Gentouch is 2.1 -- this could be one of the reason for the difference in Quadrant + the different CPU's.I would expect the Gentouch to do better as it does support 720p video, allegedly.

 

[blkrain]

Can someone help me with my Eken M-001 issue please???It will not boot past the start screen will not go to the home screen.???

 

[iplaythisgame]

3.337 Mflops/s1.62 Seconds

Looks like it really is running 800Mhz then. I'm sold. Now we only need to solve the crappy battery problem.

 

[clockworx]

Looks like it really is running 800Mhz then. I'm sold. Now we only need to solve the crappy battery problem.

Why do you say that? Lots of people have run CPU apps and come back as 600 Mhz, and the device that it is a clone of (I'm sure they just rebrand it and don't manufacture it) is 600 mhz as well.