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SO! After a month and a half of Paypal disputing and crappy customer service with Chinese vendors my apad with the telechip has finaly arrived. Now that is is unboxed and in use, I'm not sure if I'm happy or not :confused:First thing: this is the website which I bought it from > Apad iRobot Telechip TCC8902 7" Android 2.1 Tablet PCI would not and could not recommend to anyone, to purchase anything from this company based on my experience. It was pretty much a nightmare. They ran me around in circles for a bit (your tablet is going to ship today/tomorrow/in two weeks/ a month later). I eventually had to call in for reinforcements from Paypal to get this all sorted out. And what arrived in the mail, pretty much pissed me off. It came a) slightly damaged,
synced with someone else's Gmail, and c) not quite what I paid for. When I first purchased the tablet back in July they swore up and down that it would be coming with an HDMI output and 4GB of internal storage, which of course was not the case. Nonetheless enough of my nagging. Lesson learned; don't buy cheap technology from China.Now as far as the performance of the tablet, it's not all that bad. It's a fairly snappy device. The touchscreen is one of the better resistive ones I've played with, and there is software loaded to emulate multitouch gestures (not very effectively though). My biggest qualm with this device is when playing games and I press the touch screen it pretty much destroys the gameplay. It starts lagging and is right on the bleeding edge of freezing. Very frustrating. I've also been having quite a bit of compatibility issues with apps. A good amount of them downloaded from the market (which is the official android market) end up just force closing on me or they have jumbled screens etc. The G-sensor is fantastic and pretty responsive. Autorotate is 4-way and it works nicely. I was playing games like Abduction and Tilt Labrynth flawlessly for the most part. One thing I did notice while I was calibrating the G-sensor, even when I set the tablet on a completely flat surface, the sensor does not register as staying completely still. It still wobbles back and forth ever so slightly. It was kinda irritating while playing tilt labrynth, with it being 3D graphics, the tablet would be laying still and it looks like a small earthquake is happening in the game. No biggie but I wish it was fixed.As for the built in camera. No way in hell it's 1.3mp as advertised. It is complete crap, pictures are really blurry and I can barely make them out. I'm inclined to think it's the plastic touchscreen over the lense that is making the camera look so crummy. To be honest if I had a choice I'd rather the camera not be there at all, even if it was offered to be on the tablet for free.The UI of it is okay. It has working volume controls on the notification bar. Controls to adjust screen brightness work. Unfortunately it has no home button and the option to set the function of the button on the front does not work. So I have to use the back button on the top of the tablet. So if I'm browsing the internet, in order for me to get back to the home screen I have to hit back through all of my previous pages until I get to the first page again. Reset to factory setting doesn't work, which is unfortunate, because the tablet came pre synced with god knows who's gmail account, and apparently the only way to remove it is to reset the tablet.Wireless is surprisingly good as far as range. I'm able to connect to my home wifi from places my laptop can't. Though it does eats right through the battery life, which is very poor to begin with. A full charge with wifi on is only about 1-2 hours of runtime. With wifi off I only get about 3.5 hours. :(The tablet has alot of potential if someone spends some time to make a better working ROM. I'll upload some pics later today. Hope this gave a bit of insight of some kind to you guys.
 

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Thank you for your review!The HDMI-out is a real scam. I read somewhere that there are plans for the future sacrficing one USB port but for now there is no HDMI on aPads =(G-Sensor on my aPad is the same (but i cant calibrate it) it is jittering all the time.The camera would be 'normal' 0.3MP looks like they simply cant build better cameras -.-I cross my fingers for a new telechips ROM for you and am sorry to hear that your shop treated you so bad.
 

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device info https://flic.kr/p/4947616882 profile view (ports) https://flic.kr/p/4947026271 boot screen https://flic.kr/p/4947619602 home menu https://flic.kr/p/4947025561 lock screen https://flic.kr/p/4947024685 A couple of other things I wanted to comment on, the 1080p playbck is really nice. The device came preloaded with a couple of corny HD music videos which, other than the crappy music, played back crystal clear. I was impressed. The speakers are so-so.I didn't really know what to take pictures of on the tablet. If there is any specific things you would like pictures or video of, I'll try my best to take requests.
 

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could you please try to find 'benchmark' by 'softweg' on your market and execute the benchmark?after executing it press the 'menu' button then save the result.now you should be able to find the results as a .csv file on you memorycard in the '/softweg' folder.You can open that file with notepad and please post the contens here =)
 

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telechips M701 telechips/telechips_tcc8900_cn/tcc8900/tcc8900_evm:2.1-update1/ECLAIR/eng.root.20100717.070414:eng/test-keysProcessor ARMv6-compatible processor rev 6 (v6l) Linux BogoMIPS 499.71Memory RAM 151668 Memory SWAP 0GraphicsTotal graphics score;153.37465Draw opacity bitmab;75.91434;MPixels per secCPU WhetstoneTotal CPU score;349.4934MWIPS DP;26.638254;MWIPS(DP)MWIPS SP;27.99552;MWIPS(SP)MFLOPS DP;3.3624187;MFLOPS(DP)MFLOPS SP;5.388795;MFLOPS(SP)VAX MIPS DP;17.18162;VAX MIPS(DP)VAX MIPS SP;16.540648;VAX MIPS(SP)MemoryTotal memory score;275.26263Copy memory;250.12506;Mb/secFilesystemTotal file system score;39.63789Creating 1000 empty files;11.899;secDeleting 1000 empty files;7.253;secWrite 1M into file;2.2261798;M/secRead 1M from file;77.51938;sM/sec;SD card performanceCreating 250 empty files;18.784;secDeleting 250 empty files;9.364;sexWrite 1M into file;9.250694;M/secRead 1M from file;40.0;sM/sec;
 

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499 bogomips? Does that mean 1gHzor is the multiplier different for armv6?Sent from my p7901a using Tapatalk
 

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could be but i would not bet on it '^^I could not find anything about the MHz/bogomips ratio on ARM11 systems.The results look realy good! (at least my CD card is faster then yours *g*)the RAM is strange:Memory RAM 151668shouldnt it have 256MB?Maybe some of it is assigned as swap memory...
 

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Here's a couple questions for you guys. I've been a microsot whore my whole life and am just now starting to extensively explore the android/linux community. So my knowledge about most of these things is pretty limited. My whole issue with the touch screen making the device lag is driving me nuts. It takes place in more than just playing games. It even makes scrolling a page in my web browser choppy. Is this a result of cheap hardware or can it be overcome by modifying software (a new ROM)? And the same subject applies for my second question. As far as app compatibility, is it a matter of hardware or software issues? It's a real shame, as I'm finding that more apps than not, are unable to run on this device. I mean sure it's great to have a tablet with a bit more power, but it doesn't do me a damed bit of good as it stands right now. It's almost to the point where I fell that I should sell this one, seeing as the big guns are moving into the tablet market, and I can't imagine a large company like ViewSonic putting out devices that have issues up the wazoo.
 

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[quote name='apache_junctionmobile;49768]Here's a couple questions for you guys. I've been a microsot whore my whole life and am just now starting to extensively explore the android/linux community. So my knowledge about most of these things is pretty limited. My whole issue with the touch screen making the device lag is driving me nuts. It takes place in more than just playing games. It even makes scrolling a page in my web browser choppy. Is this a result of cheap hardware or can it be overcome by modifying software (a new ROM)? And the same subject applies for my second question. As far as app compatibility' date=' is it a matter of hardware or software issues? It's a real shame, as I'm finding that more apps than not, are unable to run on this device. I mean sure it's great to have a tablet with a bit more power, but it doesn't do me a damed bit of good as it stands right now. It's almost to the point where I fell that I should sell this one, seeing as the big guns are moving into the tablet market, and I can't imagine a large company like ViewSonic putting out devices that have issues up the wazoo.[/QUOTE'] Can you post a video showing the touch screen causing lag? Not sure what you mean.
 

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mingnon;50042]think this is same as one mentioned here [URL]http://www.slatedroid.com/hsg-x5a-x6-pandawill-g11/4960-new-telechips-tcc8902-720mhz-based-apad-irobot-now-available.html[/URL] said:
http://www.slatedroid.com/hsg-x5a-x6-pandawill-g11/5877-how-identify-your-device.html[/url]
Yes it does have a Christmas boot screen. It's definitely the M701 but it has a plastic back, and red LED
 

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Can you show us pictures / extract the APK / tell us more about this software? There are other telechips tablets out there that could use it
Here's a video. I'm pretty sure it's some passive software lying deep in the bowels of the device somewhere. I'm completely retarded when it comes to technicals of Android. I have no idea of how to extract information or APKs from it. All I know is that it was preloaded when I got the tablet and it pretty much sucks.
 

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I bet it's the multi-touch emulation thats causing the lag. Even when your not viewing photos, it's probably running in the background. If it thinks your trying to say, pinch to zoom, when your actually trying to scroll the screen, the screen won't scroll. Remove the multi-touch emulation and I'd bet the lag problems will disappear. Anyway double tapping the screen to zoom works fine (comic viewer, adobe pdf, etc).
 

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[quote name='apache_junctionmobile;50207]Yes it does have a Christmas boot screen. It's definitely the M701 but it has a plastic back' date=' and red LED[/QUOTE'] mines metal back, red led, same as plastic back from what i can tell, just updated to #370, screen feels more responsive and doesnt appear to lag, what firmware you running?
 

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[quote name='mingnon;51361]mines metal back' date=' red led, same as plastic back from what i can tell, just updated to #370, screen feels more responsive and doesnt appear to lag, what firmware you running?[/QUOTE'] I'm running #320. I really have no idea how to upgrade it though. I suppose it's a good time to start searching for a tutorial
 

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I just got my g10 from Pandawill yesterday. I gotta agree with everyone else, the touchscreen lag is my only big beef..(and no flash). I haven't updated to the latest firmware yet but i have 3 tutorials and plan on doing it very soon. I'll let you guys know if it improves the touch lag.
 
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