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#1 imayoda

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 05:53 AM

Now that the kernel source has been granted by Eken in email chat with thebubzie forum user, let's organize to make development fast, distributed and improved..Hope Eken will honour its promise to give us source soon..hope to give you good news :)

#2 enotar

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 10:09 AM

Great news!This is very promisingThank you

#3 ricsi

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 10:31 AM

Could you give more infos??I have never heared of eken doing that. Actually they told me the opposit.Wait with further steps until the source is made public!

#4 imayoda

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 10:42 AM

ask thebubzie :)i was in chat with him tonight and he was either with somebody at eken.. maybe they want to give the service 2.1 android pack to their devices but maybe want to do it faster or they are at a dead end with kernel or else.. don't really know.. i had to go as it was 3 am and i was a little sleepy :)

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 11:35 AM

OH PLEASE LET IT BE SO!! I am almost at the end of what I can do with what we got (damn thing wont accept almost ANY mods to framework or anything)

#6 imayoda

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 11:43 AM

OH PLEASE LET IT BE SO!! I am almost at the end of what I can do with what we got (damn thing wont accept almost ANY mods to framework or anything)

really almost done??? :)

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 11:53 AM

really almost done??? :)

Really, when I modify the libs folder much beyond what it currently is it refuses to boot, modifying bin to anything useful it wont boot, modiying the framework it wont boot, we need source BAD

#8 imayoda

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 12:23 PM

[quote name='ECOTOX;7510]Really' date=' when I modify the libs folder much beyond what it currently is it refuses to boot, modifying bin to anything useful it wont boot, modiying the framework it wont boot, we need source BAD[/QUOTE'] thebubzie should have sent you an email or a message.. i had to sleep last night: old continent time is a little nastier than it is in east coast ;)

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 12:27 PM

thebubzie should have sent you an email or a message.. i had to sleep last night: old continent time is a little nastier than it is in east coast ;)

XD lol, yeah he sent me a message about if i had any success and i just told him what i got so far. With source we can get it ported to 2.1 and i should be able to get a public beta out withing 1-2weeks after its released.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 02:34 AM

Um, is there kernel source available, or not? If there is, where can I find it?

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 03:36 AM

I did not understand, they want to release the original kernel that mount on their tablet?this will lead to the study on making portable android 2.1?a question, but having available the driver ebook (those contained in the update version 1.7.2) can not be groped to start the 2.1 with these drivers?

#12 imayoda

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 04:17 AM

[quote name='desmo;7712]I did not understand' date=' they want to release the original kernel that mount on their tablet?this will lead to the study on making portable android 2.1?a question, but having available the driver ebook (those contained in the update version 1.7.2) can not be groped to start the 2.1 with these drivers?[/QUOTE']This is linux desmo B) anything is related to kernel and libraries.. 2.1 is impossible it seems without kernel source, because they used a cusom kernel for 1.6. Android 2.1 supports 2.6.29 kernel (the 1.6 one) but they modified even some library so, we need source :(

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 06:46 AM

Just to correct what looks like a common misunderstanding, a kernel-only GPL source release will _not_ enable easy porting of Android 2.1 (although it will significantly help porting in general, and with 2.2.) Eken will need to release their patches to the 'Android base' libraries in order to make 2.1 porting easy.Here's why: http://projectgus.co...x-to-eken-m001/ (link was on forum before but got lost during the last outage.)I thought this would be part of a GPL release, but I just realised that Android userspace code is not GPL licensed, so Eken is not legally obliged to release those parts. I hope they do though, as a gesture of goodwill to the community. B).

#14 imayoda

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 06:58 AM

not GPL licensed[/URL], so Eken is not legally obliged to release those parts. I hope they do though, as a gesture of goodwill to the community. B).

yep.. distributed developing could impact eken sales... 1.6 is old now.. they have all the interest in being helped by the community. Just look at Smartq.. ;)

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 04:44 AM

Project Gus Notes on porting Android 2.x to Eken M001[/url] (link was on forum before but got lost during the last outage.)I thought this would be part of a GPL release, but I just realised that Android userspace code is not GPL licensed, so Eken is not legally obliged to release those parts. I hope they do though, as a gesture of goodwill to the community. :).

objdump ?!?! what is this, the stone age? ;)Here's the hex-rays output of libwmtapi.so; I haven't spent any time cleaning up the structure references and I wouldn't even bother to try to compile it, but might be fun to look at.http://dl.dropbox.co...931/libwmtapi.c

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 05:12 AM

[quote name='bushing;8104]objdump ?!?! what is this' date=' the stone age? ;)[/QUOTE'] Heh. There I was thinking objdump was the state of the art. ;)Given I have no fancy hex-rays license and no Windows to run it on, any chance you feel like putting the same program over libui.so and posting the output for us? :).

#17 thebubzie

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 09:31 AM

Good news guys. I have the source code. I am downloading it right know from there ftp server and am going to upload it tonight. It will be available today. I also have the source code for the eken m002 and m003. I am more concerned about the m001 right know but if any wants i can also download the m002 and m003 files.UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It turns out the file he gave me to download was just an update file. He lied :[ If your interested in there server here is there ftp address ftp://EKENIND.gicp.net/

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 09:42 AM

Good news guys. I have the source code. I am downloading it right know from there ftp server and am going to upload it tonight. It will be available today. I also have the source code for the eken m002 and m003. I am more concerned about the m001 right know but if any wants i can also download the m002 and m003 files.

Thebubzie, this is just awesome! Thanks for all your effort in this. I have the netbook version of the WM8505 and I've been trying a lot of different things on it. One thing I noticed was that WinCE booted FAST. Literally start to desktop was under 15 seconds. It was painful as hell after that, but bootup was fast, even on this slow device. I also was able to get Angstrom Linux working with the kernel we've got, and it took forever to get to the desktop. After getting console working, I finally saw that the kernel was doing a lot of stuff we don't need. It looks like the nbd module was compiled in, and there's a good delay just for that!I bet a cleaned-up kernel will make any Linux-based system (including Android) boot quite a bit faster. And given that there's no hibernation support to speak of, the only way to preserve battery life is to be able to start FAST from a powered-down device. Migrating the WM8505 code to a newer kernel would be nice, but just a cleaned up 2.6.29 would be enough for me.

#19 enotar

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 10:10 AM

Good news guys. I have the source code. I am downloading it right know from there ftp server and am going to upload it tonight. It will be available today. I also have the source code for the eken m002 and m003. I am more concerned about the m001 right know but if any wants i can also download the m002 and m003 files.

We are closer to paradise!Thank you

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:00 PM

Good news guys. I have the source code. I am downloading it right know from there ftp server and am going to upload it tonight. It will be available today. I also have the source code for the eken m002 and m003. I am more concerned about the m001 right know but if any wants i can also download the m002 and m003 files.UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It turns out the file he gave me to download was just an update file. He lied :[ If your interested in there server here is there ftp address ftp://EKENIND.gicp.net/

:'l that's sad. hopefully you can get the real thing