[DirectX]

UPCOMING AINOL TABLETS
QUADCORE ERA

Ainol Novo 7 Venus
 Venus 1.jpg (53.03K)
Number of downloads: 441
 Venus 2.jpg (69.21K)
Number of downloads: 438

Ainol Novo 7 Dragon
 Dragon 1.jpg (46.91K)
Number of downloads: 407
 Dragon 2.jpg (65.76K)
Number of downloads: 412

Ainol Novo 7 Flame II
 Flame 1.jpg (57.7K)
Number of downloads: 474
 Flame 2.jpg (90.4K)
Number of downloads: 467

Ainol Novo 7 Legend
 Legend 1.jpg (53.49K)
Number of downloads: 398
 Legend 2.jpg (68.42K)
Number of downloads: 335

Ainol Novo 8 Dream
 Dream 1.jpg (51.32K)
Number of downloads: 336
 Dream 2.jpg (66.93K)
Number of downloads: 298

Ainol Novo 10 Hero
 Hero 1.jpg (59.58K)
Number of downloads: 286
 Hero 2.jpg (66.68K)
Number of downloads: 283

Ainol Novo 10 Hero II
 Heroo 1.jpg (54.36K)
Number of downloads: 315
 Heroo 2.jpg (71.16K)
Number of downloads: 346

Ainol Novo 10 Captain
 Captain 1.jpg (55.04K)
Number of downloads: 412
 Captain 2.jpg (69.81K)
Number of downloads: 387


Source : bbs.ainol.com

This post has been edited by DirectX: 12 October 2012 - 07:55 AM

[Tzul]

Thanks! Very interesting.
Here's my summary:


NOVO7 Dragon
quad-core, 800x480 (TN), 8GB, 3700mAh (Web: 7h)

NOVO7 Legend
quad-core, 800x600 (TN), 8GB, 3000mAh (Web: 6h)

NOVO7 Flame II
quad-core, 1280x800 (IPS), 16GB, 5000mAh (Web: 8h), Dual Camera (2&5MP), Flashlight, Bluetooth

NOVO7 Venus
quad-core, 1280x800 (IPS), 8GB, 4000mAh (Web: 7h), Dual Camera (0.3&2MP), Bluetooth, GPS


NOVO8 Dream
quad-core, 1024x768 (IPS), 8GB, 6000mAh (Web: 8h), Dual Camera (0.3&2MP), Bluetooth, GPS

NOVO10 Hero
dual-core, 1280x800 (IPS), 16GB, 8000mAh (Web: 8h), Dual Camera (0.3&2MP), Bluetooth

NOVO10 Hero II
quad-core, 1280x800 (IPS), 16GB, 8000mAh (Web: 7-8h), Dual Camera (0.3&2MP), Bluetooth, GPS

NOVO10 Captain
quad-core, 1920x1200 (IPS), 8GB, 10000mAh (Web: 10h), Dual Camera (0.3&2MP), Bluetooth, GPS


Notes:
All models with Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean), USB 3.0 (!) and the usual (1 GB DDR RAM, HDMI, micro SD, WiFi, etc.).
The quad-core SoC is an ACT-ATM7029 (CPU: ARM Cortex A9, GPU: GC1000).
All 8 and 10.1 inch models have two integrated speakers.

Too many models with some strange decision, if you ask me. Why release a Hero 1 with Amlogic dual-core? Ok, as "low-end" 10.1 inch tablet maybe. But why give the Captain flagship only 8GB of internal flash?

[sikke]

I'm big fan of Ainol and now eaven more to me all these look awesome devices. Cant wait for them to come out, i really hope they get something done by christmas. My personal favorite is ofc the Captain.

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Too many models with some strange decision, if you ask me. Why release a Hero 1 with Amlogic dual-core? Ok, as "low-end" 10.1 inch tablet maybe. But why give the Captain flagship only 8GB of internal flash?

Maybe the Hero is already in production with the current AML dual-core stock but for now Ainol has decided to stop with Amlogic and go with Actions ATM7029 quad-core. All "new" products will be with ATM7029.

Maybe they want to keep the flagship price still under some level and try to cheap with internal-flash imo i'm using external flash anyway so this wont bother me.

This post has been edited by sikke: 12 October 2012 - 01:19 PM

[max1001]

GC1000 is pretty weak. I dont see why they wouldnt' go with the 2000.

[ivanz]

max1001, on 12 October 2012 - 02:50 PM, said:

GC1000 is pretty weak. I dont see why they wouldnt' go with the 2000.

we're back at Mali400 Single-Core performance

[max1001]

ivanz, on 12 October 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

we're back at Mali400 Single-Core performance

Not to majority of the 3D games are just not going to run. GC4000 is out already too. Very confusing. I have never heard of this Actions CPU either, maybe it's related to the freescale quad core cpu.

[epoc_]

If the Flame II has the hardware (pop/mosquito) issues sorted and is around £120 then count me in...anyone know about release dates?

[Tzul]

sikke, on 12 October 2012 - 01:06 PM, said:

I'm big fan of Ainol and now eaven more to me all these look awesome devices. Cant wait for them to come out, i really hope they get something done by christmas. My personal favorite is ofc the Captain.

I like Ainol's devices, but I'm not a fan yet. And I might never become one, depending on how things develop with these new tablets.
The Captain seems to be great, of course. Let's hope the high density display won't make it too expensive and that "8GB" was just a typo (seriously, if Ainol did this to save a few dollars to compensate for the more expensive screen, then they are stupid). Let's also hope that the GC1000 GPU is up to the task and that the Fire/Flame disaster won't be repeated.

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Maybe the Hero is already in production with the current AML dual-core stock but for now Ainol has decided to stop with Amlogic and go with Actions ATM7029 quad-core. All "new" products will be with ATM7029.

As I said, it makes sense to have a "budget" 10.1 inch model with lower specs.
What doesn't make sense to me is this:

• Dragon & Legend: It's okay to have one low-res, low-end model with an inferior TN display, but why two of them? And why give the one with the bigger screen a smaller battery? I'd never buy a 7" tablet with anything below 1024x600, especially not if it's TN. But that's just me, maybe these low-res TN models sell like hotcakes?
  
• Flame II & Venus: The Venus looks like a cheaper Flame II (smaller battery, less flash memory, worse cameras, no flashlight). But why give it GPS? I'd scrap the Venus and add GPS to the Flame II.
  
• Dream: An 8" model with 4:3 screen. Meh. I prefer 16:10 screens, but for people who don't, why not. However, a resolution of 1280x960 would have been better than 1024x768, but I guess it's a question of price and availability of those screens.

max1001, on 12 October 2012 - 02:50 PM, said:

GC1000 is pretty weak. I dont see why they wouldnt' go with the 2000.

I've never heard of the GC1000 before, nor of Vivante. It seems weak on paper indeed.

A single core Mali-400 (keep in mind that current Ainol tablets have a dual core):
30M tri/s and 1.1G pix/s at 275MHz
44M tri/s and 1.6G pix/s at 400MHz

Compared to a GC1000:
48M tri/s and 0.63G pix/s at 630MHz
85M tri/s and 1.1G pix/s at 1100MHz

The triangle rate is ok, but the pixel rate seems low, especially considering the higher frequency. But I'm not a GPU expert.

epoc_, on 12 October 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

If the Flame II has the hardware (pop/mosquito) issues sorted and is around £120 then count me in...anyone know about release dates?

There's a trade fair in Hong Kong starting tomorrow, where these new models should be presented, so we'll probably get more info during the next few days.

This post has been edited by Tzul: 12 October 2012 - 03:44 PM

[novadaemon]

What the hell is Ainol thinking? I'm interested in a Flame II, but this crappy GPU makes it pointless to have a Quad Core CPU. The only reason for the Quad Core CPU is to help boost the GPU. Why is GPS not on the Flame II?

If these specs are genuine then the Flame I may be better than the Flame II. If Ainol doesn't get an official version of JB on the Flame I I'm going to be pissed.

[Screemer]

You wouldnt be the only one of us who would be pissed. At least they shoumd release the damn sources to let others do their work.

Like some one said in an other thread, it seems that there is only one guy working on the software and 2 dozends working to get new hardware out of the factory ;-)

[DirectX]

I'll go for the CAPTAIN......

[AndrewDB]

Tzul, on 12 October 2012 - 09:47 AM, said:

Thanks! Very interesting.
Here's my summary:
...

Notes:
All models with Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean), USB 3.0 (!) and the usual (1 GB DDR RAM, HDMI, micro SD, WiFi, etc.).
The quad-core SoC is an ACT-ATM7029 (CPU: ARM Cortex A9, GPU: GC1000).
All 8 and 10.1 inch models have two integrated speakers.

Too many models with some strange decision, if you ask me. Why release a Hero 1 with Amlogic dual-core? Ok, as "low-end" 10.1 inch tablet maybe. But why give the Captain flagship only 8GB of internal flash?

Thanks for the nice summary! As for the reason to release one last tablet with an Amlogic dual-core: they probably still have a stock of chips from Amlogic or have an on-going supply contract. But quite obviously they are abandoning Amlogic and switching over to Actions Semi ( http://www.actions-s...m/en/index.aspx ) as their main partner for tablet development.

The quad-core feature across their entire lineup should help Ainol to remain quite competitive in the fast-paced tablet market. As for the new GPU, I would suggest to wait until we have actual performance numbers before passing any judgment (positive or negative).

[ivanz]

I don't think we really need to wait to see how that GC1000 crap performs.

Vivante GC2000 barely able to compete against Mali400 MP2 performance.
Plus the fact that Game Devs don't even bother to accept the existence of this thing.

Novo7Flame vs. Freescale i.MX6Q

This post has been edited by ivanz: 12 October 2012 - 09:55 PM

[Geodex]

The rise of the cheap quad core era. Hell I need to upgrade all my gadgets soon.

Lets see how Ainol does with their first wave of these tablets as I'm not sold on their dual core tablets

Still don't see any 3G inbuilt tablet from these guys

This post has been edited by Geodex: 13 October 2012 - 10:32 AM

[Freddo2012]

Geodex, on 13 October 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

The rise of the cheap quad core era. Hell I need to upgrade all my gadgets soon.

Lets see how Ainol does with their first wave of these tablets as I'm not sold on their dual core tablets

Still don't see any 3G inbuilt tablet from these guys

in my opinion it doesn't make sense to have 3g internal. If you have a number of devices you only use one at a time and therefore you only need one dongle or even MiFi. One dongle for all your tablets.

[Nickos-V]

ivanz, on 12 October 2012 - 09:50 PM, said:

I don't think we really need to wait to see how that GC1000 crap performs.

Vivante GC2000 barely able to compete against Mali400 MP2 performance.
Plus the fact that Game Devs don't even bother to accept the existence of this thing.

Novo7Flame vs. Freescale i.MX6Q

The Flame is 1280x800 and MX6DQ is 1024x768. The Flame still kicks butt even at higher resolution!!!

Vivante is not the best choice for GPU. ARM's Mali400 is better. The Mali450 is even better but no ARM chip maker is using that one yet.

The GC1000 is going to be worse. Fairly similar to the GC800 in my i7. ie. GC1000 is slightly better than GC800 and worse than Mali400.

I think Ainol were going for a cheap quad core CPU. That's why they chose this one. But gaming performance is very important. What good is having quad core CPU if both 8726-MX and RK3066 kick its butt in gaming?

[Geodex]

Freddo2012, on 13 October 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

in my opinion it doesn't make sense to have 3g internal. If you have a number of devices you only use one at a time and therefore you only need one dongle or even MiFi. One dongle for all your tablets.

Well not everyone has wireless on the go and a number of devices so it does make sense.

Besides most dongles are not supported in official build roms by Ainol so saves a lot of people the hustle and it's portable. Better than having a dongle hanging by the side of the tablet.


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This post has been edited by Geodex: 13 October 2012 - 06:55 PM

[ivanz]

Nickos-V, on 13 October 2012 - 06:09 PM, said:

The Flame is 1280x800 and MX6DQ is 1024x768. The Flame still kicks butt even at higher resolution!!!

Vivante is not the best choice for GPU. ARM's Mali400 is better. The Mali450 is even better but no ARM chip maker is using that one yet.

The GC1000 is going to be worse. Fairly similar to the GC800 in my i7. ie. GC1000 is slightly better than GC800 and worse than Mali400.

I think Ainol were going for a cheap quad core CPU. That's why they chose this one. But gaming performance is very important. What good is having quad core CPU if both 8726-MX and RK3066 kick its butt in gaming?

INDEED!

I'd rather pick any RK3066 Tablets over that QuadCore Action thing...

Or get the Exynos 4412.. =D

[Jagadish]

I am just too excited looking at this list of Quad core devices, Wondering what would their marketing price be? I would really love to add Flame II to my collection, and of course, how I wish they would come up with English Firmware, by default on them..!!!!

[keenmay]

Would 2GB of ram be beneficial to these more powerful tablets? none of these new tablet has it.