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#21 Geodex

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:31 PM

I have seen the light in the Pipo section. These are some fantastic specs for their prices. Think I will consider either the M3 or M1.

Thanks guys, some good info in here

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 07:42 PM

I have seen the light in the Pipo section. These are some fantastic specs for their prices. Think I will consider either the M3 or M1.

Thanks guys, some good info in here



Oh damn bro me 2, I still can't get out of my list the Yuandao n101 or Aoson M11.


Between the 3 which would you choose? M1, M11 or N101?

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 11:41 PM

N101 II is a nice 10.1" device with 32 GB of Ram and a higher PPI screen. However it has touchscreen issues and some other problems (battery meter inaccuracy) due to Yuandao's crap firmware :(. Also, build quality is great if you get a good one, however Yuandao Quality Control is rather lacking and things like bum microphones and loose casing have been reported. So, if you get a good one (and there is a fair chance that you will) and Yuandao fixes the firmware in the next few months then you have probably the nicest unit of the lot.


Aoson M11 - Well built (from what I have read) but it has a smaller battery (7000 mAh instead of 7800 mAh in the PiPo) which is still decent, and it is fat and heavy not to mention a bit ugly (in the Pics I have seen it has an odd Chrome bar across the back). Aoson has a good reputation though, it has decent community support, I don't know much about how the firmware is but I would expect it is pretty good, and I have heard the build quality is great. I debated back and forth on selling this unit but ultimately the very thick and heavy design , slightly smaller battery and slightly higher price turned me off. It would be a solid choice though.

PiPo Max M1 - Thus far I have had a very good experience ordering this device. The "worst" problem I have had is that a couple have come with a few areas of the back metal plate casing not snapped in place which takes about 30 seconds to fix. Design wise they look nice, are well built, and are quite thin at 9.9 mm I think? They do win the "stupid award" for speaker placement. They put a rather under-powered speaker on the lower right-hand corner (landscape orientation) so it is easy to cover if playing a game. That's my only gripe. I went with this unit for our store because the Jelly Bean firmware is near perfect and ridiculously fast and smooth, the QC from PiPo has been very good, the device isn't generic as PiPo actually tries to put some thought into their packaging and accessories (very refreshing from a China Tab company) and did I mention I have been really happy with the QC (Quality Control). That really is the biggest sticking point for me. Bad Quality control kills my business. To many customers getting units that have defect and there goes the whole bottom line not to mention a bunch of frustrated customers.

That brings me finally to the N90 II which really should be considered.

N90 II - Similar to the PiPo Max M1 - Very good battery life, pretty smooth Jelly Bean firmware although the PiPo still feels a smidge faster. Where the N90 II SHINES though is the screen (which is very very bright) and incredibly good Wifi. It is also deliciously thin (same thickness as the M1 however the sloped sides make it feel very very thin when you hold it and look at it) and it has a rear firing mono speaker that is quite loud.

--- Why are we NOT selling this unit? ----

CONS - Build Quality - It is tight and decent but the rear panel is Plastic not metal (one good drop and it feels like it would crack). The rear panel is an absolute scratch magnet, you breath on it, it scratches. The scratches aren't bad but you will notice them and be annoyed :). It just "feels" cheaper. I mean, I love how comfortable it is to hold and use, the plastic back is why it is so light and also probably why it has such good Wifi. Finally, I have major concerns with Yuandao's quality control and the longevity of this device. I just know I will have more customers with broken units in 6 - 8 months with this tablet than I will with the PiPo M1. It isn't as sturdy. Because the WiFi, Screen, and Speaker are all so nice, I could almost forgive that except I guarantee the defect rate is also a lot higher and I just can't deal with shipping a bunch of defective stock back to China OR WORST having defective stock dropshipped to my customers or slip by me and then they are involved in the hassle of replacing it. Forget about it. If you are buying for yourself and you don't mind flipping a coin (don't get me wrong, you have excellent odds of getting a perfectly fine working device) and you can be really gentle with the unit you get, this might be the best way to go. As for me and my shop though, I am going to err on the side of sturdiness and build quality even if that means sacrificing a bit of weight, speaker, WiFi, screen brightness.

Also, the M1 is way sexier :) lol. Svelte Black Metal vs. White Plastic with Shiny orange lettering. You do the math. Its like putting a Aston Martin DB7 next to a Street Modded Honda Civic. Both are nice, but the DB9 has class (speaking purely on a looks basis here).

Ultimately I would have the M1 and part of that is that I like the 4:3 form-factor which further rules out the N101 II for me.

Hope that helps rather than muddle things more.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 11:45 PM

EDIT: I have no idea what the M3 will be like, I am hoping it will be as good as and slightly better than the M1 while also sporting the 10.1" wide formfactor. I would like to offer it rather than the N101 II at this point.
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Posted 14 September 2012 - 02:34 AM

Roman2025: do you know if the pipo m1 has USB Gamepad support? (out-of-the-box or using USB/BT Joystick Center 6 or similar)
In particular i'm interested in generic gamepad usb support as i don't have an expensive ps3 or xbox controller.

In other more complicated words, do you know if the kernel has already the USB Host API (and other needed)?

thanks

Pd: I'm evaluating buying one M1 but no one care to answer me this, lol, i'm being ignored.
Pd2: see also this

Edited by lanosalf, 14 September 2012 - 02:40 AM.


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Posted 14 September 2012 - 02:59 AM

@Roman thanks again for the summary and I had noted your previous comments on the N90 II but for me I prefer the Aston Martin over the Honda civic ;)

@lanosalf If I had an M1 I would try it for you. Maybe I will soon ;-)

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 03:32 AM

Just had this reply to my email to Pipo from Ben Lai..

P102 is ready to ship.

It is 4000maH with 7.4 V, it is with 2 pcs of 4000pcs 3.7V with series connection and it is with same play time as 8000mAh with 3.7V

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 04:07 AM

Roman It's so great that a retailer doesn't only want to get the money and go, but works and helps the community to make it better.

You've done a great Job clearing those things out.

I'll remove Aoson m11 out of my list.

I'll stay with N101 II and Pipo M1 and if everything goes well, Pipo m3?

But I lean towards Pipo m1

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 04:24 AM

Just had this reply to my email to Pipo from Ben Lai..



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Oh damn... M3 is ready to ship...

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 08:52 AM

EDIT: I have no idea what the M3 will be like, I am hoping it will be as good as and slightly better than the M1 while also sporting the 10.1" wide formfactor. I would like to offer it rather than the N101 II at this point.

Thanx for all the info Roman! I have been looking at the Cube U30GT which has about the same specs as the N101, but now this new M3 with the same specs, but some improvements, like stereo speakers is looking good too. When do you think you might get them? What about the new quad core processor coming out. What size screen will it be offered with and when?

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 09:24 AM

Can yo pm me his email address? I work through trade companies but PiPo is a company I would be interested in getting a direct contact with.

Thanks,

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 11:54 PM

Cool. Will be getting either the M3 or N101 II soon after price drops.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 08:46 AM

Do we have any news about the M3?

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 07:17 PM

Pipo is supposed to be quoting me a sample price soon.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 12:24 PM

ok..waiting for m3 to release

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 04:51 AM

First ad on Aliexpress I've seen for it...

http://www.aliexpres.../643179834.html

Shouldn't be too long before the big players get it :thumbup:

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Edited by Jezzer, 21 September 2012 - 04:52 AM.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:18 AM

mmm..does not ship to india..if there is a pipo m3 with 2gb/32b inbuilt 3g and jelly bean with 5 mp back camera then i would buy it right away..

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 01:32 PM

I noticed on the web that PIPO MAX 2 9.7 inch is out . Please share your view about PIPO MAX 2. Does it have better audio speaker quality and camera than U30GT ? Any comparison between PIPO MAX 2 and PIPO M3 ?

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 06:56 PM

First ad on Aliexpress I've seen for it...
http://www.aliexpres.../643179834.html
Shouldn't be too long before the big players get it :thumbup:
Jez

This may well be the one Ive been waiting for.
Romans honest review of the M1 and great work with the firmware steered me toward Pipo but the M1 4;3 aspect ratio is not for me as a photographer.
The 10.1 inch screen is more like the 3:2 ratio of my photos so there we go.
I've been looking at the Yuandao N101 for a while and to be honest all I've learned on various forums is how many problems need to be fixed out of the box :(
So hopefully if this proves as good as the M1,and Roman can get his hands on one sometime soon to weave a little magic I can finally get the tab I've been looking for.
Fingers crossed............again :yahoo:
PS What about this seller.......
http://www.aliexpres.../643413840.html

Edited by stanton, 21 September 2012 - 08:04 PM.


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Posted 22 September 2012 - 01:52 AM

PS What about this seller.......
http://www.aliexpres.../643413840.html


Seems a bit too cheap to be true there.


Noticed that PandaWill have them now

http://www.pandawill...put-p67671.html

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Edited by Jezzer, 22 September 2012 - 03:17 AM.

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