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#1 Roman2025

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 01:13 PM

Got my Pipo M1... Here are my initial impressions:

1. Build Quality is good. I even opened the device up and internals looks VERY well done. I have seen cheap tablet internals and this NOT that. Everything is pretty solid.

2. I don't like the plastic outer ring design that so many of these devices use but it is well built. I just hate the sharp front face edge they always have.

3. Cameras are surprisingly good.

4. Performance is absolutely phenomenal. This is my first RK3066 device though so I don't have another RK3066 for reference. That being said, this chipset is wonderful!

5. WiFi Range/speed is decent and much better than the Quantum Singularity/Elijah U9.... however Elixir 2 states that it is connected at 65 mbps to my Wifi-N network which is rated at 150 Mbps. What does this actually translate into? Well... it means they used a cheaper WiFi chip. As far as actual speed goes... it isn't going to matter much I don't think at 65 Mbps is still plenty fast. It will just mean slower file transfers on the local network which isn't something I do very much with my tablet so I don't really care. Range and signal quality are much more important so that the speed doesn't drastically drop off. I need to do more testing but thus far I am pretty happy with WiFi as download speeds for apps has been very very quick. I also took this device with me to the hospital (recently my daughter was born so I spent a lot of time here with the singularity) and I was always able to get a connection on the Singularity however it would sometimes be slow/weak. I was back at the hospital and the Pipo M1 connected and the speeds for browsing was quite quick so that was a good indicator.

6. Processor speed as reported by Elixir 2 is topped out at 1.6 ghz, however the quickest it ever seems to actually run is 1.4 ghz. I think it can and will run at 1.6 Ghz though if you actually are doing something that needs all that. Most of the time I think it probably runs around 1.0 to 1.2 Ghz tops. I am quite happy though as I wasn't expecting the max to really be 1.6 Ghz. I expected it to be 1.4 Ghz.

7. Build Quality (sorry we are jumping all about)- Rear panel is VERY nice. It is aluminum and the stylized design looks good. Furthermore, the "PIPO" logo is not just a sticker :)... It is actually stamped in (well... stamped from the inside out) which means it won't be rubbing off.

8. Buttons! - Congrats again go to PIPO. Buttons are excelent, placement is good, no rattle, and they provide the full array... So Power, Menu, Back, AND A VOLUME ROCKER! WOOT! and reset hole :)

9. CCC Logo is stamped on the back. Important for me becaues that means I can sell in Europe and in the USA without the FCC coming after my business for selling non-compliant devices! No OEM crap here!

10. Cameras are decent. Not a lot of blur. Image quality isn't amazing but they are both very usable. Perhaps the faster processor is why? It can actually keep up with the cameras? Anyhow, they are decent, nothing serious but slightly better than the normal china-tab fare.

11. What else is there to discuss? Oh yes! I was delighted to find out that the Accelerometer is INDEED 3-Axis. Games work beautifully.

12. Speakers - It kind of sucks. The Placement was dumb because your hand goes right over top of it for any game you are playing... The saving grace here is that the Headphone Jack is standard size, not the smaller size as some have reported. I can put any of my headphones directly in.

13. Design - The black/dark look is very nice and distinctly different from an iPad which is a good thing :) if you want the coolness factor.

14. Thin... this device is very thin, 9.6mm which is quite slim compared to the Aoson M11's 10.5mm of bulk. For reference an iPad 1 is a FAT 14 mm, and iPad 2 is a mind boggling slim 8.8mm. Most china tabs are anywhere from 10 mm to 12mm with most being right around 11 mm. So 9.6mm feels quite good.

15. Battery... I haven't tested endurance however when I opened the device up the battery is printed clearly as 7800 mAh 3.7v. I was actually QUITE HAPPY and here is why. A.) I was afraid I would find either 4000 mAh or 6500 mAh even though it is stated at 8000 mAh. Why? Some sellers have innacurate numbers that say as much. I figured I would be stuck with 6500 mAh. So 7800 mAh is quite nice. Also, I was happy because the pack WAS INDEED printed on and it doesn't look like an uber-cheap battery, so the quality is probably pretty decent.

16. Screen - This is a very MIXED bag... okay... first impression was that the screen is absolutely brilliant. It is VERY BRIGHT and the colors look good. I compared it side by side with the Singularity and the Singularity panel looks dull by comparison. The whites aren't as bright. This is definitely as bright/vivid as the Cube U9GT2 which is still the reigning champ of China Tab screens IMHO. HOWEVER... Screen Bleed is rather bad. I noticed this later on when, for example, a black load screen would come up, and I had the brightness maxed and the room was a bit dark, you can see bleed around the edges. It is noticeable mainly on the side with the ports but it is all around. However.... let this be known.. It is ONLY on dark screens. Not on white... So like, with the Aurora, that was a horrid IPS screen experience. You had bright bright light bleed on dark screens all the way around the panel and some even had "light spots" in the middle of the screen. Furthermore, on the Aurora, on a WHITE screen you would have DARK areas all around the edges. It was aweful.

The screen on the M1 looks perfect when there is any color or even straight white. The bleed is only visible when you have a black/dark background/image. So, for example, when watching Netflix you can see a bit of bleed on the top or sides depending on how what you are watching is cropped/letterboxed. The bleed is primarily only noticeable when you are in a darkish room with the back-light maxed. It is noticeable though more so than what I would like.

I was a bit concerned at first about the screen, to the point that I wasn't going to sell this model, however after using it a bit more and realizing it only shows up on black backgrounds in dark rooms with the brightness really turned up and ALSO realizing that items like the Cube U30GT suffer the same issues (perhaps worse?) and I am probably not going to find a perfect panel... this is actually quite good. Because 95% of the time I don't notice bleed as it is a "light bleed on dark image" only and not a "dark bleed on light image" which is much worse as evidenced by the Aurora which has both issues.

Shew... The screen takes some explaining...

17. TOUCH... TOUCH is very good! 10-points!

18. Bluetooth - It is there, it turns on (and off) and seems to work? I haven't tested any devices with it yet though as I don't have very many bluetooth devices to test with... Actually, I just tested with my Dell Bluetooth mouse! It paired and worked perfectly!! Too Cool! I have never gotten that mouse to work with my Rena3 which also had bluetooth. That's that then... I am getting myself a nice bluetooth keyboard case to go with this as well and I will have a full laptop on hand!

19. Packaging - Awesome! - They ship in a super thin box for the Tablet Itself and a separate very nice looking box for the charger/accessories. The packaging certainly makes you feel like you are getting a real "product" and not some Chinese Knock-off. I know a lot of people feel that is irrelevant, but it does tend to indicate the quality of other things... So more to that point...

20. Pipo... Pipo really cares about their product, that much is obvious based on several factors not commonly found in China Tab.... A. CCC Marking/Certification (if it is really certified) B.) Good Quality Internal/Design and Halfway decent looking battery pack C. Stamped Logo... not just laser printed or (worst of all) stickered on... D. Device has a S/N... also another good sign... E. Slightly stylized back panel

21. Accessories... A point for each as they each deserve one...

22. Data cable is good quality... it has the little rounded thing on part of the cable (a fuse perhaps?) which I have noticed tends to show up on things like Garmin cables and other devices you expect to be good quality.

23. Headphones - The best free headphones I have ever gotten with a China Tab... which I know doesn't say hardly anything... Lets put it this way... I won't be throwing them away and will probably be using them. Highs are a bit muted but bass is suprisingly good and they don't distort at all even at max volume. Oh yea.... they are in-ear (like the rubberized tip that goes in your ear and seals.) I think paired with an Equalizer to boost the highs a bit and this would be a fine set of ear buds. I was totally shocked by this minor thing. I just don't expect earphones that are even remotely usable to come with a china tab. EDIT: Google Play Music HAS AN EQUALIZIER NOW!! WOOT :) It is quite good. I boosted up the Highs and these are quite good headphones now!

24. Charger - HELL YEAH! A. I got a USA Charger. B. It is 5v C. It has a bit of heft! It actually feels like more than plastic and solder, I think it is actually a GOOD QUALITY CHARGER!? Miracles do happen lol :). I guess I should touch back on this in a few months but initial impressions are that this is one of the better chargers I have gotten with a China tab... D.) It ALSO has the CCC marking on it! Good indicator! :)

Okay so the screen bleed is annoying but not noticeable most of the time (I am anal retentive about this stuff, so realize that too) and the 65 mbps WiFi-N is a bit meh but real-world use seems good. I think it is obvious Pipo actually has put some time into creating a real differentiated PRODUCT (like Onda) and NOT just another clone/knock-off/OEM build. I think they actually do CARE surprisingly enough, about their product based on the fact that all of the accessories are actually good quality and the packaging is good quality and the internals are well built and the battery pack appears decent, and the rear stylized panel looks good and the logo is stamped...

I think much of the above could also be said of the Aoson M11. I was pleasantly surprised it could be said of the Pipo M1 though.

I will spend a few more days with it and write up a better review but thus far initial impressions from the past two days have been positive.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 01:46 PM

Hi,

Great device and great post, will be waiting for you review.

Can you tell how much it cost and where did buy it from ?

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 02:39 PM

65 Mb/s is great. Most people do not need faster than that for Internet anyways. Highest for ADSL here is 25 Mb/s. Cable can go to 250 Mb/s but most will choose 10, 20 (or 50). More important is signal strength rather than speed. Sure, 150 Mb/s would be cool but distance is much better to have.

That is very big sized battery. Good to hear.

Charger from Pipo or from your distributor? Cube does not provide charger with their U30GT. Instead came from Chinese seller.

Screen bleed probably normal/average. U30GT have the same. Impossible to stop without some type of gasket to seal the gap. Have to test my I7 to see if the same thing or not.

Do you happen to know the website for PiPo? Can you give that. Sometimes hard to find the Chinese tablet maker sites to check for specs, products and firmwares.

*MINIX NEO X5 (RK3066) - OK. Not fun because uses mouse cursor.
*YUANDAO N80 DUAL (RK3066) - Very good
*CUBE U30GT (RK3066)- Defective; buttons broke in 2-3 weeks; Bad quality control!!! I will never buy a Cube again!!! - Very good while working
*WOPAD I7 (RK2918)- About OK. Sluggish because has weaker ARM chip (RK2918) & less RAM (512 MB).

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:42 PM

I don't know the PIPO site. I got the info from my supplier. You can probably google around and find it though?

It should be stated again that the speaker kind of sucks :)

@ Haneya - I am a retailer so I get my devices directly from a supplier or the manufacturer ;). I will probably start a presell on these in a few weeks and will offer both a import/modify option as well as a dropship option. I quality inspect anything imported/modified before shipping and also provide support. The question right now I am asking is if this unit is good enough to rebrand/co-brand as the Quantum Meson. Currently I am leaning that direction but I want to spend a few more days with it first.

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Thus far - Gameloft games refuse to run (not compatible BS that gameloft pushes, will need a build.prop mod once I get firmware and tools to dissect it) however EA's excellent new Mass Effect game runs AMAZING! Awesome game, amazing GPU in this beast :)

Edited by Roman2025, 20 July 2012 - 03:43 PM.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:43 PM

Couldn't be more in-depth. Kudos to your patience. Could well have influenced my decision for a tab if I were to read this yesterday! Anyway, best luck!

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:29 PM

I don't know the PIPO site. I got the info from my supplier. You can probably google around and find it though?

@ Haneya - I am a retailer so I get my devices directly from a supplier or the manufacturer ;).

Speaker sucks on U30GT too. =)

I think I found PiPo's website. This appears to be it but cannot say for sure yet:
http://www.pipo.com.cn/index.php

But I could not see the M1 listed. Also, no firmware download link so you will have to rely on your supplier for new firmwares.

PiPo also says OEM so you maybe able to buy direct from them. Not sure about order quantities and prices but worth asking to know. If they give 100, then maybe worth your while going direct.

Good to try out that tablet for about 5 days before giving out final verdict. By then you will have really good feel and can tell what you dislike about it.

Later,

Edited by Nickos-V, 20 July 2012 - 06:33 PM.


*MINIX NEO X5 (RK3066) - OK. Not fun because uses mouse cursor.
*YUANDAO N80 DUAL (RK3066) - Very good
*CUBE U30GT (RK3066)- Defective; buttons broke in 2-3 weeks; Bad quality control!!! I will never buy a Cube again!!! - Very good while working
*WOPAD I7 (RK2918)- About OK. Sluggish because has weaker ARM chip (RK2918) & less RAM (512 MB).

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:32 PM

Oh yes, did PiPo provide the power adapter or your Chinese seller/distributor?

This has been a problem with U30GT because power adapter not provided by Cube and different sellers provide different quality chargers.

*MINIX NEO X5 (RK3066) - OK. Not fun because uses mouse cursor.
*YUANDAO N80 DUAL (RK3066) - Very good
*CUBE U30GT (RK3066)- Defective; buttons broke in 2-3 weeks; Bad quality control!!! I will never buy a Cube again!!! - Very good while working
*WOPAD I7 (RK2918)- About OK. Sluggish because has weaker ARM chip (RK2918) & less RAM (512 MB).

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:53 PM

I don't know the PIPO site. I got the info from my supplier. You can probably google around and find it though?

It should be stated again that the speaker kind of sucks

@ Haneya - I am a retailer so I get my devices directly from a supplier or the manufacturer . I will probably start a presell on these in a few weeks and will offer both a import/modify option as well as a dropship option. I quality inspect anything imported/modified before shipping and also provide support. The question right now I am asking is if this unit is good enough to rebrand/co-brand as the Quantum Meson. Currently I am leaning that direction but I want to spend a few more days with it first.

Regards,

Roman

Thus far - Gameloft games refuse to run (not compatible BS that gameloft pushes, will need a build.prop mod once I get firmware and tools to dissect it) however EA's excellent new Mass Effect game runs AMAZING! Awesome game, amazing GPU in this beast


Well I know ur business, and I am sure your taking very good care about the quality, but u don't ship to my country :o , anyhow will be waiting for your decision about the device, and of course the battery life test results.

Regards.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:57 PM

Well I know ur business, and I am sure your taking very good care about the quality, but u don't ship to my country :o , anyhow will be waiting for your decision about the device, and of course the battery life test results.

Regards.

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Which country? We do dropshipping to a lot of place worldwide ;). Currently we have no products to sell you as the Pipo isn't official yet.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:59 PM

Oh yes, did PiPo provide the power adapter or your Chinese seller/distributor?

This has been a problem with U30GT because power adapter not provided by Cube and different sellers provide different quality chargers.


I *think* it was provided by PIPO.

The site you listed above is indeed the manufacturer.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 02:15 AM

Good review.
Regarding this:

16. Screen - This is a very MIXED bag... okay... first impression was that the screen is absolutely brilliant. It is VERY BRIGHT and the colors look good. I compared it side by side with the Singularity and the Singularity panel looks dull by comparison. The whites aren't as bright. This is definitely as bright/vivid as the Cube U9GT2 which is still the reigning champ of China Tab screens IMHO. HOWEVER... Screen Bleed is rather bad. I noticed this later on when, for example, a black load screen would come up, and I had the brightness maxed and the room was a bit dark, you can see bleed around the edges. It is noticeable mainly on the side with the ports but it is all around. However.... let this be known.. It is ONLY on dark screens. Not on white... So like, with the Aurora, that was a horrid IPS screen experience. You had bright bright light bleed on dark screens all the way around the panel and some even had "light spots" in the middle of the screen. Furthermore, on the Aurora, on a WHITE screen you would have DARK areas all around the edges. It was aweful.

The screen on the M1 looks perfect when there is any color or even straight white. The bleed is only visible when you have a black/dark background/image. So, for example, when watching Netflix you can see a bit of bleed on the top or sides depending on how what you are watching is cropped/letterboxed. The bleed is primarily only noticeable when you are in a darkish room with the back-light maxed. It is noticeable though more so than what I would like.

I was a bit concerned at first about the screen, to the point that I wasn't going to sell this model, however after using it a bit more and realizing it only shows up on black backgrounds in dark rooms with the brightness really turned up and ALSO realizing that items like the Cube U30GT suffer the same issues (perhaps worse?) and I am probably not going to find a perfect panel... this is actually quite good. Because 95% of the time I don't notice bleed as it is a "light bleed on dark image" only and not a "dark bleed on light image" which is much worse as evidenced by the Aurora which has both issues.

Shew... The screen takes some explaining...

For example if i you read some ebook on night mode(black background-white text), for example using FBreader or aldiko etc.... Is this bleeding annoying? perhaps in low brightness it is not or Is it?

thanks

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 09:24 AM

Good review.
Regarding this:

For example if i you read some ebook on night mode(black background-white text), for example using FBreader or aldiko etc.... Is this bleeding annoying? perhaps in low brightness it is not or Is it?

thanks


I normally use Nook so I hadn't thought of that. Let me download the app and check and then I will update this post!


UPDATE: I got FB Reader and tested it out in Night Mode with brightness maxed in a dark room. The light bleed is visible on the right side of the screen when held in landscape mode but it is only on the margin and doesn't extend into the text itself so in that regard it doesn't affect reading. In portrait mode, it is on the bottom of the screen and not very visible at all.

Regard,

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Edited by Roman2025, 21 July 2012 - 11:45 AM.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 09:42 AM

Performance Update!!

My God the RK3066 is incredible... I had no idea because I had only done a bit of reading on it but I ran a Quadrant bench and couldn't believe my eyes!

RK3066 TOTAL Score is higher than an Asus Transformer Prime! Holy cow!
RK3066 = 4288
Tegra III = 4085


CPU is where the Transfomer Prime has the biggest lead... and 2 extra cores to work with mind you... and the lead isn't even NEAR double. That means the RK3066 is doing WAY more per core than the Tegra III... That is staggering!
RK3066 = 7825
Tegra III = 11192



3D is where I expected the Prime to blow the RK3066 out of the water(nVidia and all...) They are pretty much EVEN! the prime is a smidge faster.
RK3066 = 2306
Tegra III = 2458



2D Here the RK3066 is a smidge faster surprisingly enough!
RK3066 = 327
Tegra III = 320



I/O = THIS IS HUGE! The I/O performance measures read/write operations I believe? and it makes a huge difference in everyday use of the device. Think of taking a PC from a regular hard drive to an SSD (solid state drive) and that is a good example of a massive increase in I/O... Apps load very fast, everything just feels like it is hyperspeed. The I/O for the RK3066 in this device is MIND NUMBINGLY FAST AT NEARLY DOUBLE the Prime! That means this tablet is going to feel way more snappy in day-to-day operations!
RK3066 = 6570
Tegra III = 3588



Mem = Part an parcel with I/O is memory speed and the RK3066 once again BLOW THE TEGRA III out of the water with once again nearly 45% HIGHER PERFORMANCE. Once again, this makes the day to day use of this tablet Light Years BETTER than a comparable Tegra III device. This tablet is going to be way faster, more responsive, and just plain BETTER!
RK3066 = 4413
Tegra III = 2860


Due to the massive scores in I/O and Memory performance the RK3066 OUTPERFORMS the Tegra III in the Transformer Prime! I am absolutely blown away. I didn't expect a China Chip to ever pull something off quite like this.

Now if we could just work on the bloody app compatibility we would, dare I say, have a near perfect device peformance/use wise!

Roman

Edited by Roman2025, 21 July 2012 - 10:42 AM.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 10:57 AM

65 Mb/s is great. Most people do not need faster than that for Internet anyways. Highest for ADSL here is 25 Mb/s. Cable can go to 250 Mb/s but most will choose 10, 20 (or 50). More important is signal strength rather than speed. Sure, 150 Mb/s would be cool but distance is much better to have.

That is very big sized battery. Good to hear.

Charger from Pipo or from your distributor? Cube does not provide charger with their U30GT. Instead came from Chinese seller.

Screen bleed probably normal/average. U30GT have the same. Impossible to stop without some type of gasket to seal the gap. Have to test my I7 to see if the same thing or not.

Do you happen to know the website for PiPo? Can you give that. Sometimes hard to find the Chinese tablet maker sites to check for specs, products and firmwares.


HYG http://www.pipo.com.cn/

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:02 AM

Which country? We do dropshipping to a lot of place worldwide ;). Currently we have no products to sell you as the Pipo isn't official yet.

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Do you have Aoson M11 to ship to NYC ?, I need it before 29 July.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:43 AM

@Bondo2

Someone else already posted the site above, if you have buying requests please PM them and not post on the thread :(

I have a PIPO M1 on hand, no Aoson M11. Sorry about this.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:45 AM

Which country? We do dropshipping to a lot of place worldwide . Currently we have no products to sell you as the Pipo isn't official yet.

Cheers,

Roman

Saudi Arabia, any updates about the battery life ?

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 02:53 PM

Battery life seems decent but I haven't done a formal measurement yet. I will admit it is lower on my list at this point because I know the battery pack size is 7800 mAh so it is going to be better than most RK3066 devices as long as the firmware isn't totally botched.

I was FINALLY able to get it rooted! It took some fanciful work to do so but I finally found something that worked. I will post it when I get time. For those that want to try to repeat...
1. Tasselhoff had a root script for the A10 platform that was meant for the Gemei G9 - it uses a root script that was apparently for the Transformer

2. I used that Moborobo app/driver from another thread about rooting I think the Window N90II RK3066 device and I also replaced the ADB Executable and DLL files in the Tasselhoff script with the ones from Super One Click 2.3.3 modded (also found on that page about rooting the N90 II)

EDIT: Here is the link for the N90II stuff: http://www.slatedroi...ii-how-to-root/
EDIT: I don't have a link for the Tasselhoff root script but I will try to make a package once I get some time.


App Compatability! Once I got the device rooted I was able to fool around with the Build.prop and I am starting to get Gameloft games installed! Thus far Asphalt 6 ran perfectly. I am downloading the data for NOVA 3 right now and MC3 and Dungeon Hunter III and will test all those as well and report back. Thus far, things are looking very promising. The GPU in the RK3066 is a beast!

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 05:05 PM

I'm not overly surprised that the RK3066 performs well in comparison to the Tegra 3. Though the T3 is seen as a market leader, being the first quad-core mobile chip released, it's GPU performance isn't overly impressive. Similarly, it has pretty low memory bandwidth available in comparison to other devices.

That said, the RK3066 is certainly an impressive chip considering it is found in such good-value budget devices.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 09:38 PM

I'm not overly surprised that the RK3066 performs well in comparison to the Tegra 3. Though the T3 is seen as a market leader, being the first quad-core mobile chip released, it's GPU performance isn't overly impressive. Similarly, it has pretty low memory bandwidth available in comparison to other devices.

That said, the RK3066 is certainly an impressive chip considering it is found in such good-value budget devices.



The memory bandwidth and storage I/O performance are what just totally surprised me. This is honestly the first tablet I have owned where I don't feel like I am missing out on something because I paid a lower price.

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