[mdbarber]

hi dave.
no its the a10 version i have, thank god i would of bricked the DC one by now with all these chinese utils lol
i can transfer the files to the tablet itself and they play no problem via built in FM or ES but they simply won't play from an smb share,
weird as hell just a generic "can't play file" or "unknown error occurred" message.
Just noticed amazon have the DC version on for same price i paid for mine last year(£95) very tempted!

[bgenc]

SaneiN83User, on 08 May 2013 - 10:56 PM, said:

benc,

NO

There are MAJOR differences between the various Allwinner A10 versions - They don't all use the same video, bluetooth, wifi etc, hardware. If you try to use other versions (rather than those specifically for the Sanei N83 or Ampe A85) you could possible 'brick' your tablet! And you could even physically damage your tablet - there are parameters specified in certain files that change how the power/current is supplied to differing parts of the system.

Aside from the 'scare' tactics, even if you do try to use another ROM that is incompatible with your Sanei N83, it's unlikely that you'll really damage your tablet, but be warned (you could) and remember you can't totally 'brick' it - It's not possible (with current utilities) to overwrite the in-built (to the CPU) boot-rom and therefore you can ALWAYS recover using the PhoenixCard method (I've posted a lot about this in this thread).

Having said all of this, the Sanei 'stock rom' doesn't have 'that much' bloat-ware built-in, apart from the horrible chinese version of the play-store which can over-ride things at times......

From my experience, the current latest official releases are as stable and perform equally to the latest custom versions. Neither which have changed recently, and if you look at the developers comments about CM9/CM10, bluetooth will NEVER be supported.

The wifi issues with the early 'stock rom' versions seem to have been resolved and whilst I still have wifi issues occassionally, I don't think it's software (unless it's ICS related).

FYI - I'm getting a reliable (although weak signal) from about 7-8 metres away from my router even with a 4-inch thick brick wall inbetween, sufficient to stream HD quality (720p/1080p) video will very little (if no break-up). Although I must admit that at times when I'm in the same room as the router, I can have problems.... I wonder if other 2.4GHz wireless devices are masking/overpowering the wifi signal???

It might me take some time (a couple of days at a guess), but if you tell me what you want removed or added to the latest official stock rom, I'll try to provide you with a customised version

Hope all this helps

If not, just ask away, I'll be glad to share what I know......

Dave

You are so helpful I don't even know how to thank you It is good to see people like you on forums.

As I have earlier said, I have already rooted the tablet and CWM is installed and I am running CM10. I agree that the stock rom wasn't that bad but I guess I am so used to CM roms from my phone (Atrix 4g), that I just wanted to have a similar interface on my tablet. I thas been a while (about 4-5 months, maybe more) since I flashed CM10, so I don't really know the latest state of stock roms. The reason I am willing to go back to stock ROM is because CM on n83 is not being updated and also custom ROM scene is quite inactive. Moreover, CM is not responsive. I am having annoying lags in application startups. I am willing to give the stock ROM one more shot.

What you can help me with is if you have a CWM flashable, rooted stock ROM, I would be glad to give that a try. The reason I am looking for a CWM rom is because I am using linux and I don't have access to a windows machine. Hence, I cannot use the livesuit and other programs. If you can also get rid of the "chinese stuff" I will be delighted. However, I can work on that myself as long as the rom is rooted.

Saying all that, I am not expecting you to spend the time required to prepare such a ROM. Only help me with it if you really have some spare time to work on it. And thanks a lot nonetheless.

[SaneiN83User]

mdbarber, on 09 May 2013 - 02:56 AM, said:

hi dave.
no its the a10 version i have, thank god i would of bricked the DC one by now with all these chinese utils lol
i can transfer the files to the tablet itself and they play no problem via built in FM or ES but they simply won't play from an smb share,
weird as hell just a generic "can't play file" or "unknown error occurred" message.
Just noticed amazon have the DC version on for same price i paid for mine last year(£95) very tempted!

mdbarber,

I've just done a quick test myself.

Initially I had MobiPlayer installed and set as the default app for video files. Using ES File Explorer, navigating to my LAN and my Windows PC and opening a .avi file worked properly with no errors.

I then uninstalled MobiPlayer and tried again. This time I get the same error message as you.

However, if you long-press on the .avi file, click the 'more button' at the bottom of ES File Explorer, select the 'Open As' option, then Video (as the file type) you get the option of which player to use. Using ES File Explorer's built-in video program works and the video plays properly.

So your options are to either use the 'long press' method or to install MobiPlayer.

Hope this helps

Dave

[SaneiN83User]

bgenc, on 09 May 2013 - 07:48 AM, said:

You are so helpful I don't even know how to thank you It is good to see people like you on forums.

As I have earlier said, I have already rooted the tablet and CWM is installed and I am running CM10. I agree that the stock rom wasn't that bad but I guess I am so used to CM roms from my phone (Atrix 4g), that I just wanted to have a similar interface on my tablet. I thas been a while (about 4-5 months, maybe more) since I flashed CM10, so I don't really know the latest state of stock roms. The reason I am willing to go back to stock ROM is because CM on n83 is not being updated and also custom ROM scene is quite inactive. Moreover, CM is not responsive. I am having annoying lags in application startups. I am willing to give the stock ROM one more shot.

What you can help me with is if you have a CWM flashable, rooted stock ROM, I would be glad to give that a try. The reason I am looking for a CWM rom is because I am using linux and I don't have access to a windows machine. Hence, I cannot use the livesuit and other programs. If you can also get rid of the "chinese stuff" I will be delighted. However, I can work on that myself as long as the rom is rooted.

Saying all that, I am not expecting you to spend the time required to prepare such a ROM. Only help me with it if you really have some spare time to work on it. And thanks a lot nonetheless.

bgenc,

Thanks for the compliment - I'll always help if I can.....

I've never used CWM, so am unable to help with that side of things - sorry.

However, I'm guessing that you're fairly familiar with Linux (since you only use Linux - lol). I have to ask how familiar are you with modding Android images in general?

I've found a possible version of LiveSuit that runs on Linux see linux-sunxi.org for more details. At least that should give you the ability to reflash ROMs to your N83.

Since I know nothing of CM9/CM10/CWM, what I can do, if you want, is to take the latest 'stock rom', remove all the Chinese rubbish, root it (along with the SU app) and post it for you. What you would then need to do is to re-install the CWM part of things.

Let me know

Dave

[bgenc]

SaneiN83User, on 09 May 2013 - 02:12 PM, said:

bgenc,

Thanks for the compliment - I'll always help if I can.....

I've never used CWM, so am unable to help with that side of things - sorry.

However, I'm guessing that you're fairly familiar with Linux (since you only use Linux - lol). I have to ask how familiar are you with modding Android images in general?

I've found a possible version of LiveSuit that runs on Linux see linux-sunxi.org for more details. At least that should give you the ability to reflash ROMs to your N83.

Since I know nothing of CM9/CM10/CWM, what I can do, if you want, is to take the latest 'stock rom', remove all the Chinese rubbish, root it (along with the SU app) and post it for you. What you would then need to do is to re-install the CWM part of things.

Let me know

Dave

Dear friend,

CWM is a recovery partition image that let's you flash a ROM on your device "without" a PC. All you need to do is to put the ROM file on your SDCard and then reboot into CWM and install the ROM within CWM. It is actually a fairly common method of flashing ROMs for other devices. Besides flashing ROMs, it also helps you cleaning and formatting partitions such as cache, data and Dalvik Cache.

I think, if you can give me the ROM image I can somehow write it to the device. I will also check the Linux version of LiveSuit you have mentioned. Maybe I can even cook a CWM image from your ROM and republish it for others. So I will be waiting for your ROM.

[SaneiN83User]

bgenc, on 09 May 2013 - 02:55 PM, said:

Dear friend,

CWM is a recovery partition image that let's you flash a ROM on your device "without" a PC. All you need to do is to put the ROM file on your SDCard and then reboot into CWM and install the ROM within CWM. It is actually a fairly common method of flashing ROMs for other devices. Besides flashing ROMs, it also helps you cleaning and formatting partitions such as cache, data and Dalvik Cache.

I think, if you can give me the ROM image I can somehow write it to the device. I will also check the Linux version of LiveSuit you have mentioned. Maybe I can even cook a CWM image from your ROM and republish it for others. So I will be waiting for your ROM.

bgenc,

I'm not too sure what you actually need for CWM..... The ROM images that I use are the LiveSuit images (ROMs) - They are in a 'special' IMAGEWTY format which contain various things to deal with what is flashed (and to where) along with files that contain the contents of the \system partition, \boot partition, \data partition, etc.... I don't know what the CWM ROM files actually contain.....

So if you can tell me what you need - Hopefully I should be able to provide it.

I 'could' provide you with an SD card image that will re-flash your tablet from power-up - But that would be the stock rom version (or one that I've modified). It of course wouldn't have CWM included (because I'm unfamiliar with it). However, if CWM is just a replacement 'recovery' partition, then if you can provide me with your CWM recovery partition as a single file, I theoretically can give you a bootable SD-Card image that you can re-flash your tablet with that would include CWM along with the modified 'stock rom'.

Let me know how you want to proceed.

Dave

BTW - It might take a few more exchanges of info to find out exactly what you want - I'm quite happy to spend the time if it will help. As you can see from my previous posts in this thread, I'll give it my best shot (lol) - It'll only take me away from working on porting JB to the N83...... But I'm not 100% sure that it's even possible - I've too many closed-source binaries to locate........

[bgenc]

SaneiN83User, on 10 May 2013 - 09:23 PM, said:

bgenc,

I'm not too sure what you actually need for CWM..... The ROM images that I use are the LiveSuit images (ROMs) - They are in a 'special' IMAGEWTY format which contain various things to deal with what is flashed (and to where) along with files that contain the contents of the \system partition, \boot partition, \data partition, etc.... I don't know what the CWM ROM files actually contain.....

So if you can tell me what you need - Hopefully I should be able to provide it.

I 'could' provide you with an SD card image that will re-flash your tablet from power-up - But that would be the stock rom version (or one that I've modified). It of course wouldn't have CWM included (because I'm unfamiliar with it). However, if CWM is just a replacement 'recovery' partition, then if you can provide me with your CWM recovery partition as a single file, I theoretically can give you a bootable SD-Card image that you can re-flash your tablet with that would include CWM along with the modified 'stock rom'.

Let me know how you want to proceed.

Dave

BTW - It might take a few more exchanges of info to find out exactly what you want - I'm quite happy to spend the time if it will help. As you can see from my previous posts in this thread, I'll give it my best shot (lol) - It'll only take me away from working on porting JB to the N83...... But I'm not 100% sure that it's even possible - I've too many closed-source binaries to locate........

Dear friend,

I don't think you have to include the CWM image in the ROM. As I have earlier told, it is a recovery partition image which helps you in flashing ROMs. It doesn't necessarily have to be included in a ROM. The reason I have ever mentioned CWM is because I already have it in my recovery partition and so if I have a ROM that is flashable within CWM, then I don't need a PC or the livesuit application to flash the ROM. I can simply put the ROM file on the SDCard and then boot into recovery mode (CWM), then flash the ROM within CWM.

If you can provide me a ROM image which I can flash to my tablet without the livesuit application that is A+. If not possible, the rest boils down to the following: you provide me an image and tell me how to flash it on the tablet, and I will flash it. I said I don't use Windows, but if I have to, then Windows is not the hardest thing to access on this planet

So basically, what I need from you is the latest Sanei N83 single core firmware, cleaned off Chinese stuff, and optimized in settings (if you know of any optimizations specifically for this device, I mean).

[bgenc]

SaneiN83User, on 10 May 2013 - 09:23 PM, said:

bgenc,

I'm not too sure what you actually need for CWM..... The ROM images that I use are the LiveSuit images (ROMs) - They are in a 'special' IMAGEWTY format which contain various things to deal with what is flashed (and to where) along with files that contain the contents of the \system partition, \boot partition, \data partition, etc.... I don't know what the CWM ROM files actually contain.....

So if you can tell me what you need - Hopefully I should be able to provide it.

I 'could' provide you with an SD card image that will re-flash your tablet from power-up - But that would be the stock rom version (or one that I've modified). It of course wouldn't have CWM included (because I'm unfamiliar with it). However, if CWM is just a replacement 'recovery' partition, then if you can provide me with your CWM recovery partition as a single file, I theoretically can give you a bootable SD-Card image that you can re-flash your tablet with that would include CWM along with the modified 'stock rom'.

Let me know how you want to proceed.

Dave

BTW - It might take a few more exchanges of info to find out exactly what you want - I'm quite happy to spend the time if it will help. As you can see from my previous posts in this thread, I'll give it my best shot (lol) - It'll only take me away from working on porting JB to the N83...... But I'm not 100% sure that it's even possible - I've too many closed-source binaries to locate........

Dear Dave,

Did you have any time working on this?

[tobaaco]

hello guys if my tablet is empire electronix k701 with rockchip 3066 and android 4.1.1 can i use the sanei/ampe firmware to root my tablet? I already searched for a firmware from empire electronix k701 on there website but there is nothing..